Wesley YM Commitee Retreat 2008!... and Wesley Ym vs Faith methodist match!

Wesley YM Commitee Retreat 2008!... and Wesley Ym vs Faith methodist soccer match!

It was sure one relaxing and time of bonding between the leaders from the different sub-comms in wesley ym! From the awesomeee foood! To the Polar bear games! And the sessions where got to know each other personality better through this PEAKs profile test and see how we can work with one another from this strength base system! Heard it cost like hundred plus outside! But we got ours sponsored for FREE!

Saturday 20 Sep (day 1), 9am!

(Changi Village Hotel!)

First session!
After worship and introduction... we got the results of our PEAKs scores! We did a 270 question test to get our personality test profile! It was one in depth test result!

Pastor Alvin Chan led this session, and it was pretty fun seeing how each of us had really totally different personality traits... and how we use our different strengths to work together in this committee.

(my overall test result!)

BUFFET LUNCH! awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee =P


(lovely Ox tail!..... and the deserts were FABULOUS!)

Checking in time!

(the nice toilet with the see thru toilet! thats matthias my room-mate!)

Back to the function room... 2.30pm..



(Adriel led a session a good session on thoughts on Christian leadership... manage to take back some thoughts to share... )

A Different Leader
The aim of a Christian leader is to minister and inspire change

A Different Source
We minister out of the overflow and not out of our insecurity...

A Different Motivational Style
We motivated by grace and not by the law

(an extract of the commentary of 2 Corinthians 3:6)
Paul is making a distinction between the Old Covenant written on stone and the New Covenant that is presented inside us by the Spirit. The old (the law) brought death, because no one could keep its directives, whereas the new brings life through the life-giving Spirit. The letter (the law) killed because no one was able to keep it. It made us guilty, while the New Covenant sets us free from the condemnation of the law. The law was fulfilled in the only person who could have fulfilled it, the God/man Jesus Christ. Now we have the spirit of God inside us all because of this new covenant that is superior to the old covenant.

Motivated by Grace...
As Christian leaders we should
-Inspire others by showing them who they are in Christ and givign thema vision of God's destiny for their lives.

-We inspire them to love and excel by first loving them.

-This kind of motivation is empowering and liberating, allowing them to fulfill their highest potential.

However, theres always this danger when people have this misconception of grace... as its true that if sin increases, grace will increases even more! But lets not dwell to much on that now... bcoz we are all dead to sin when we are justified by his grace,through faith..." What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Romans 6:1-3" There is no answer to this "how" question. We can't live in sin if we died to it. That is Paul statement.

And then theres preachers out there who preach a lot on grace in such extremes, i'm not saying preaching grace is wrong but... personally to me, it can be controversial if the extend of it leads to materialism and prosperity gain.

Anyway after this session, it kinda make me wondered ... if my previous post abt putting the thought if we were saved in the first place a little too hard to take in? As i'm afraid that it was a little bit of preaching the law? .... hmmmm...i guess its still a long way for me to grasp what Grace really means? Its not as easy subject to grasp... but my personal theology on this has change after certain circumstances if u read my previous posts....well i guess this is a matter i will continue to pray abt for God to reveal to me...

Anyway the part i do agree is...the best way to inspire and minister to others is through the new covenant that God has given us and not to use the law to instill guilt in ppl just for them to be ministered...

A Different definition of success:
We promote others and not ourselves
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others Philippians 2:3-4

-We should inspire others by promoting their value- we show them how much they mean to God and how much they mean to us.

- See others as "masterpieces" that God wants to build of them.

Below was some of the things we did during Gladwin session on Ministry Top 3..

(broke into grps to build the tallest tower with just mash mellows and toothpicks..thats our grp!)

(matthew lai grp won with this superb structure! see how every mashmellow had a support...its like how everyone in the body of christ need that LOVE and accountabilty to hold on to one another strongly)

Break time...


(Samuel our new ptm showing matthias and me some of his guitar skills... he has a gift in worship leading! One cool guy!)

Dinner time!



(the food was all gone in seconds before we cld finish)

(Most of the leaders in YM comm 2008!!!.. a pretty young team this year)

10pm.... POLAR BEAR NIGHT!

(Adriel as usual using his eyes to discern the liars! haha!... pastor alvin just acting spontaneously like his personality... i think he was the polar bear in this round..)

(wad am i doing! hhahah!)

after 1-2 plus am...watching some horror/triller show on tv...

(matthias is afraid! hahha!......a scene of the MONSTER WORM!)

Sunday 21 Sep, Day 2....BREAKFAST!

(me just love breakfast at hotels! yumm yumm!)


(The lovely card that wanli and gladwin made for all the ym comm members.... and nicee scripture sweets too!)

(thanks gladwin,ronda,meng choo,yewjin,gareth,kheng,nicole,jolyn,stacy,matt lai,sam&wanlin for writing to me those niceeee touching message =) )

Soccer match! Wesley Ym vs Faith methodist church

(the new signings! hahah!.. me,kheng,shannon)

(Captain kheng in action!)

(the match begins!)

Btw we scored in just 3 touches in kick off!... first touch...Kheng long shot from kick off...gk..touch out for corner... Ben Lau then take the corner... Jason balota HEAD in for the GOALLLL! 1- 0 up for wesley.... Faith equalised......... And then Ben Lau scored after passing a couple of defenders to slot it pass the keeper..2-1 up! (I think its my first goal for wesley)... after that 2-2..den Balota scored again to make it 3-2... after a fluke goal in the final mins ny faith..3-3... penalty shoot out...and we wonnnnnn!!! Isaac got the final kick to win! 3-1 on penalties!=)

(the blisters i got during the match! grrrrr.... had to control the pain thru out the second half... now my whole body aching too from the tough match!... and i need to recover by weds for my napfa test! haizzz)

Monday...
Just came back from YMLC group 8 reunion aka sarah farewell dinner at Fish and Co!!!!! Im wow! everyone except ivee cld make it! It sure was a next time meetin up with this wonderful people again and sharing abt the happenings from each other ministries as well as random conversations... =)